Automotive thing that bothers me

"The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123" (mattp123) 07/01/2015 at 11:40 • Filed to: None

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Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:42

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YES

Nibbles > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:46

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Why yuo do dis to me

blackchair > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:48

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I wish I could rip that page out of my monitor, crumple it up like a piece of paper, light it on fire, and shoot for three into the trash can across the room. D:

Rainbow > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:48

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I think all wheels on passenger vehicles should be a standard 6 bolt pattern. Small cars that don’t need that much stuff holding the wheels on can just use three of them.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:50

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You mean all the lug patters? Yeah its fun trying to find the right stuff that you want. I have an old Z so I already knew what was available in the 4 lug Japanese car market.

Frank Grimes > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:56

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ihavefivespokeswithfourlugshutyourbigotmouth!!!!!!??!”’*&&!?!!

BarryDanger > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:57

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Any wheel with 7 spokes. SO UGLY.

MonkeePuzzle > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:58

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to me it’s frustrating how odd numbered spokes are on even numbered lug nut wheels.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Rainbow 07/01/2015 at 11:59

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Absolutely not. You could make your argument for a small slate of wheel pattern sizes, but there are a lot of brake and hub bearing packaging concerns that impact what patterns are even possible on a given setup. About the *minimum* number of sizes “really needed” would be a 4x100 or similar, 5x115 or similar, and one each 6 and 8 lug for medium and advanced medium duty truck platforms. If you’re going to need that many as a minimum, then there’s no reason to artificially limit to that number if others already exist. Further, a standard lug pattern only gets you so far, you still have thousands of permutations of offset and width. Again, mostly dictated by packaging and very hard to work around. As to three-lug wheels, while they’re cute on a Citroen, there is no safety margin whatsoever - one loose or missing lug makes the wheel’s mounting utterly unstable. Not so for four-lug.

AM > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 11:59

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I have 6-lug GM wheels, some of the easiest rims to find :)

Dean Beyer > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 12:13

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This one doesn’t bother me.

Dean Beyer > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 12:13

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These are horrible.

Tareim - V8 powered > MonkeePuzzle 07/01/2015 at 12:24

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I know what you mean...

What the hell were they thinking here?

The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 07/01/2015 at 12:25

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Not that. When the number of spokes and number of lugs don’t have a common factor.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 12:32

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True, the 4 lugs are always a bit off I guess if there are 5 spokes.

Mine are ok here above, they placed a lug every two, but this wheel comes in 5 lug:

DrScientist > BarryDanger 07/01/2015 at 12:35

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hideous!

cover your eyes!

BarryDanger > DrScientist 07/01/2015 at 12:53

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Exactly. Both cars would look better with different wheels.

The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > BarryDanger 07/01/2015 at 13:01

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Better than six spokes. All I see is a pair of three spoke wheels. And three spokes are among the worst.

BarryDanger > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/01/2015 at 13:25

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Yeah I can see that. I like the RFP1s and that’s about it on cars. If a truck has 6 lugs, I think they can look alright.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > BarryDanger 07/01/2015 at 14:41

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those are purdy

The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 07/02/2015 at 00:46

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That 5 lug is nasty. 4 lug good.

boxrocket > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/02/2015 at 00:49

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I mostly agree with this. I hate 4-lug wheels, such that if I every buy a Miata, it’s getting a 5-lug conversion first thing (unless it’s an NC, which all came with 5-lugs, AFAIK). To me it looks like a square, which is difficult to make roll, so 5 is the minimum (except for one like a racing car, some exotics, etc.). 3 is preferable to 4, because to me it makes more sense for triangles to roll than squares, but few vehicles (like the smart cars and Tata Nano) have three lugs so they get a pass. 6 lugs need 6 spokes, like most F-150s of late. 8 lugs for HD trucks. Beyond that is “medium" duty and higher which have mostly solid wheels anyway.

Tohru > The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 07/02/2015 at 08:22

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OI